Short 2nd phase on triple jump.

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  • Participant
    thecompgame on #18794

    My coaches think i can jump 40ft or even more if i make my 2nd phase longer…
    I know the rhythm your suppose to jump with but once i go through my first phase I just can’t seem to keep it and my 2nd phase is like 2-3ft long…its like im just taking a step and then jumping into the pit. I seem to have this problem when im going with speed down the run way. When i do it with 3 steps or just a slight run i can go through all the phases. Its been killing me because I’m only getting mid 30’s which is less then what i was getting my freshmen year. I can get some videos later if you guys want.


    Participant
    af678480 on #119732

    A video might help to see. There could be many reasons that your second phase is so short and the best way for us to tell is by actually seeing it. I can tell you that in my experience most athletes with a short second phase are trying to win the whole competition on their first phase. They will jump a lot higher then their legs can handle so when the land for the second phase they can not handle the forces. This results in them taking a short second phase in order to recover from the first. I hope this helps.

    Carl Valle
    Participant
    Carl Valle on #119733

    Post a long shot video perpendicular to the board and pit. Please pan smoothly.


    Participant
    thecompgame on #119734

    A video might help to see. There could be many reasons that your second phase is so short and the best way for us to tell is by actually seeing it. I can tell you that in my experience most athletes with a short second phase are trying to win the whole competition on their first phase. They will jump a lot higher then their legs can handle so when the land for the second phase they can not handle the forces. This results in them taking a short second phase in order to recover from the first. I hope this helps.

    I think thats exactly my problem…I told my coach what if i shorted my second phase because i feel like i can’t push off again he said that made no sense.
    But ill post a video showing you guys. One with a full run and another just starting a little bit behind one of the boards.


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    W.E. Price on #119736

    Sounds like an athlete we have. And respectfully could be quite different in physical makeup and related attributes as the original poster. He’s a jump dominant TJ’er that has since made a few alterations with his phases.

    RRtj1131 (PW: jumping)

    His takeoff leg has been switched to favor better control through the phases. However the major changes were to “unlock” the hamstring of the free leg during the hop phase. The hamstring is no longer engaged to flex the knee and the leg now swings freely with the foot dorsi-flexed as opposed to the plantar-flexed position in the video.

    Posture and use of the arms during changeover in phase has slightly improved as well in practice. However consistency in competition remains a problem since getting used to the takeoff leg switch, as well as runup rhythm, has delayed the progress we see in practice sessions.


    Participant
    thecompgame on #119744

    Sounds like an athlete we have. And respectfully could be quite different in physical makeup and related attributes as the original poster. He’s a jump dominant TJ’er that has since made a few alterations with his phases.

    RRtj1131 (PW: jumping)

    His takeoff leg has been switched to favor better control through the phases. However the major changes were to “unlock” the hamstring of the free leg during the hop phase. The hamstring is no longer engaged to flex the knee and the leg now swings freely with the foot dorsi-flexed as opposed to the plantar-flexed position in the video.

    Posture and use of the arms during changeover in phase has slightly improved as well in practice. However consistency in competition remains a problem since getting used to the takeoff leg switch, as well as runup rhythm, has delayed the progress we see in practice sessions.

    Wow you sound like your talking about me!!
    In the picture i see that when he’s on the phase where he changes legs he doesn’t raise his knee up (you said something about that) to get distance, but did you make that change on purpose?
    My problem is also not being able to do it at competition as well, even my coach told me that. I can seem to do it sometimes at practice but when it comes to doing it at a meet i can’t do it.
    Here is a video i got at one of my meets when i was practicing. Sorry its not that great but once i get a chance to get a good video at practice ill put it up.


    Participant
    thecompgame on #119745

    Also found this video… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Pbz_BkRYU
    I think this is probably the problem.
    Just need to know how to fix it


    Participant
    W.E. Price on #119747

    Appreciate the reply. We have the DVD that the snippet you included is originally from and have been in contact with Boo as well.

    Several items will require consistent work with the athlete I referred to as well as his willingness to conform (a problem in the past).


    Participant
    Daniel Andrews on #119749

    Sounds like an athlete we have. And respectfully could be quite different in physical makeup and related attributes as the original poster. He’s a jump dominant TJ’er that has since made a few alterations with his phases.

    RRtj1131 (PW: jumping)

    His takeoff leg has been switched to favor better control through the phases. However the major changes were to “unlock” the hamstring of the free leg during the hop phase. The hamstring is no longer engaged to flex the knee and the leg now swings freely with the foot dorsi-flexed as opposed to the plantar-flexed position in the video.

    Posture and use of the arms during changeover in phase has slightly improved as well in practice. However consistency in competition remains a problem since getting used to the takeoff leg switch, as well as runup rhythm, has delayed the progress we see in practice sessions.

    The first change I would have done with the athlete in this picture is move back to next take off mark and look at the difference.


    Participant
    W.E. Price on #119751

    [quote author="W.E. Price" date="1365378286"]Sounds like an athlete we have. And respectfully could be quite different in physical makeup and related attributes as the original poster. He’s a jump dominant TJ’er that has since made a few alterations with his phases.

    RRtj1131 (PW: jumping)

    His takeoff leg has been switched to favor better control through the phases. However the major changes were to “unlock” the hamstring of the free leg during the hop phase. The hamstring is no longer engaged to flex the knee and the leg now swings freely with the foot dorsi-flexed as opposed to the plantar-flexed position in the video.

    Posture and use of the arms during changeover in phase has slightly improved as well in practice. However consistency in competition remains a problem since getting used to the takeoff leg switch, as well as runup rhythm, has delayed the progress we see in practice sessions.

    The first change I would have done with the athlete in this picture is move back to next take off mark and look at the difference.[/quote]

    You’re correct. I did forget to mention that as well. This athlete is quite stubborn about things but we were able to convince him after these attempts to move back a mark. And only after his step phase was landing him at the lip of the pit after alterations were made.

    Thank you.

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