Jonathan Edwards Training Diary

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    mikhail on #19086

    thx again mike:)
    ps:misha is mikhail, i just used different comp so forgot the dmn pass even tho it was 3 letter long lol……..

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    utfootball4 on #19087

    i like his training very simple

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    Nick Newman on #19088

    My coach is best freinds with john edwards coach when he was jumping. i was at his house the ohter month when jonathan called him…was pretty weird…but hes a great guy. His training was very simple and towards the end of his career he didnt very little, mostly speed and olympic liftsm rarely did squats….

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    utfootball4 on #19089

    My coach is best freinds with john edwards coach when he was jumping. i was at his house the ohter month when jonathan called him…was pretty weird…but hes a great guy. His training was very simple and towards the end of his career he didnt very little, mostly speed and olympic liftsm rarely did squats….

    i like how he kept his training based around the ol/squats/bp nothing else. biggest bang for ur buck

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    utfootball4 on #19090

    im reading this damn pdf file and what the hell is he doing 1 set of 10 for the ol?

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    Nick Newman on #19091

    just read it as well…alot of that is bullshit, he didnt do half of it im sure…ill ask my coach what he actually did…and let you guys know for sure.

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    lorien on #19092

    I don't really like the single set of 10 "all-out" reps on Day 1. This especially doesn't make sense to me if Jon was doing squats, cleans, and bench press with the same protocol on the same day for every week prior to outdoor.

    I've talked with Mike Stone (current USOC Strength High Performance Specialist and former Strength Coach for Ireland) on several occasions and he told me quite a bit about Jonathan's training. He did quite a bit of testing and work with Edwards. None of what he told me included the Day 1 protocol described in that article…..not that that necessarily means he didn't do that at one point, I've just never heard of that kind of thing with Edwards. One thing I do like though is the simplicity of the program as well as the protocol for day 2.

    I kind of get the impression from the article that the author of the article just wrote the article and didn't know too much about Edwards training. For example:
    "I am not sure how long this was done, but I will offer two ways of doing this depending on how long you plan to use this program."

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    "I don't know if assistance lifts were used…."

    This doesn't mean that it's not a good article, just perhaps that it isn't exactly Edwards training.

    Observe the date of that article (2002), and remember it was in 1995 that the magic happened! I think a better source is indeed the 1996 presentation by Carl Johnson (his coach at that time), where he presented his handwritten day-by-day training diary from 1995 (January â?? August).

    Clean, snatch and bench were the lifts (no squats, nor any other auxiliary lifts). Circuit approximately once a week, mostly 60m strides, and triple jumping. No tight, fixed, weekly schedule from the beginning of March.

    First measured triple jump: 14.70m with 6-step approach on February 13. Then thereâ??s a 16.60m with 10-step approach on March 24. 17.05m with 14-step approach on May 26! First competition: 17.58m on June 11. And, of course, 18.43w on June 25!

    Note!: These werenâ??t all his jumping sessions, just some examples picked from his diary!

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    saltojump5 on #19093

    Where can we find the presentation/1995 diary?  :smilegrin: 

    Bench as one of the big 3 is interesting…think that's all that important for a triple jumper?  60m strides? I don't get it…as part of the circuit, you mean? Otherwise strides for speed development sounds like what cross country runners do. Triple jumping lots and lots of short approach jumps I assume.

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    lorien on #19094

    Where can we find the presentation/1995 diary?  :smilegrin: 

    Bench as one of the big 3 is interesting…think that's all that important for a triple jumper?  60m strides? I don't get it…as part of the circuit, you mean? Otherwise strides for speed development sounds like what cross country runners do. Triple jumping lots and lots of short approach jumps I assume.

    Well, when sprinting, 60m was usually the distance, especially from March onwards.

    Short approach jumping yes, but in very reasonable volumes; when approach was short, then, approx. once a week; when the approach got longer (over ten steps), then, fewer times than once a week.

    Iâ??ll see if itâ??s possible to post the diary here on the forum (maybe in jpg-format or something). Perhaps itâ??s best to get approval from Mike first?

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    saltojump5 on #19095

    Thanks! Those couple of insights clarified may just help guide a jumper better! I probably would have overdone it with the short approach jumps. Sprints @ 60m is definitely better sounding than strides. I like that!

    It would be great to see the diary (Mike willing). If it's better to not post here, we'll survive.  :sniff:

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    Mike Young on #19096

    Lorien-
    I'm all for it. If you have any problems attaching the file email it to me and I'll post it.

    ELITETRACK Founder

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    lorien on #19097

    OK, I had some trouble attaching jpg-files so I decided to type his training by hand. This is a presentation of Jonathans training from February to July 1995.

    Jonathan Edwards training 1995:

    February 1995
    1: Clean 3x6x85 â?? H.Snatch 3x6x55 â?? Bench 3x6x60 + 6 x 50m
    2: End bounding + circuit
    3: 4 x 130m
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    6: Snatch 3x6x60 â?? H.Clean 3x6x80 â?? Bench 3x6x60 + jumping routine from 6
    7: 5 x 50m fast
    8: Clean 3x6x90 â?? H.Snatch 3x6x55 â?? Bench 3x6x60 + 5 x 50m relaxed
    9: 3×12 hops R+L â?? 3×12 steps – N° HS since legs sore + attempted circuit but felt faint
    10: Snatch 3x6x60 + H.Clean 3x6x80 â?? Bench 3x6x65 + 5 x 140m
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    13: Clean 3x6x90 â?? H.Snatch 3x6x55 â?? Bench 3x6x65 + Jumping session off 6 = 14.70
    14: 4 x 50m fast (legs sore)
    15: Snatch 3x6x60 + H.Clean 3x6x80 â?? Bench 3x6x60 + easy strides
    16: End bounding + circuit
    17: 6 x 130m relaxed and fast
    18: H.Clean 3x6x85 â?? Bench 3x6x65 â?? Abdominals because restricted facilities
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    20: Clean 3x6x90 â?? H.Snatch 3x6x60 â?? Bench 3x6x70 + Jumping session off 6&10
    21: Racket â?? ball
    22: Snatch 1x6x70: 2x6x65 â?? H.Clean 3x6x80 â?? Bench 3x6x70 + 4 x 50m relaxed 90% effort
    23: End bounding + circuit
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    27: Leave Tallahassee
    28: Arrive UK

    March 1995
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    7: Clean 4x4x90 â?? H.Snatch 4x4x65 â?? Bench 4x4x75 + medicine ball work
    8: 6 x 100m 80% in snow
    9: Snatch 4x4x70 â?? H.Clean 4x4x95 + circuit
    10: 5 x 60m fast (quite tired) ++ Jumping sess from 6 14.60: 15.20: 14.80: 15.05
    11: Clean 4x4x100 â?? H.Snatch 4x4x65 â?? Bench 4x4x75
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    13: Snatch 4x4x70 â?? H.Clean 4x4x95 â?? Bench 4x4x75
    14: 6 x 100m
    15: Clean 4x4x100 â?? H.Snatch 4x4x65 â?? Bench 4x4x75
    16: Circuits
    17: 6 x 60m + Jumping sess 15.00: 15.05
    18: Slight back injury
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    20: 4 x 100m (back sore + ham twinge)
    21: Test â?? 11.7st â?? 12,5% bf â?? 68su â?? 53pu â?? 302 slj
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    23: Circuit test ++ Bench 92.5
    24: 5 x 60m ++ Jumping sess 16.60 from 10 very flat + Test completion 1525os â?? 3.62 30m
    25: Light lifting session
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    27: â??Working weights back inâ? â?? Bench 4×80 â?? 3×85 â?? 2×90 â?? 1×92.5 â?? 1×95 (fast)
    28: Snowing â?? short indoor bounding session
    29: H.Clean 3×80/85/90 â?? Snatch 3×60/65/70 + 6 x 60m relaxed
    30: 6 x 60m ++ Circuits
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    April 1995
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    10: Clean 3x3x115 (v. explosive) â?? H.Snatch 3x3x75 â?? Bounding (some fatigue after Saturday) 
    11: 6 x 60m
    12: Snatch 1x3x80: 2x3x82.5 â?? Bench 3x3x75 â?? H.Clean 2x3x105 + strides (slight quad twinge)
    13: Circuits
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    15: Bench 1x3x87.5 â?? Easy clean and Snatch
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    18: Test â?? 11.2st â?? 10.1% bf â?? 72su â?? 57pu â?? 1518osp â?? 3.54 30m â?? 306slj
    19: Test 90 Snatch & 100 Bench (no fails) + easy strides
    20: Circuit test including Ergojump which ruined legs
    21: Sore legs wiped out jumping sess
    22: â?¦& lifting sess
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    24: Clean 4×110 â?? 3×115 â?? 2×120 â?? 1×125 â?? 1×130 â?? Bench 3×3 (2) x90 + Hurd bounds & strides
    25: 2 x 60m easy + 4x 60m fast
    26: Snatch 3x3x82.5 â?? H.Snatch 3x3x75 â?? Hurd Jumps + Skill session on arms
    27: Circuits
    28: Jumping sess 10st couldnâ??t jump cos bad pos @ TO:14st 16.50: 16.30: 16.30: 16.30: 16.30
    29: Clean 3x3x115 â?? Bench 3x3x90 + strides (fatigued)
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    May 1995
    1: Snatch 3x3x82.5 â?? H.Snatch 3x3x75 â?? Hurd Jumps & strides
    2: 5 x 60m fast (V. good)
    3: Clean 3x3x115 â?? H.Clean 3x3x105 (both good) + Hurd Jumps & strides
    4: Circuits (2x only not too well)
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    6: Snatch 3x3x82.5 â?? Bench 3x3x90 + Hurd Jumps
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    9: H.Snatch 3×75 â?? 2×77.5 â?? 1×80 â?? 1×82.5 + 5 x 50m
    10: Clean 3x3x115 â?? H.Clean 3x3x105 (adductor stiff)
    11: Circuits x 4
    12: Bench 3x3x90 ++ Jumping sess 10st 15.60: 16.10 (several run-throughs) 14st 16.65: 16.60 (legs tired)
    13: Snatch 3x3x82.5 â?? H.Snatch 3x3x75 (very tired)
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    15:Weights test Clean 132.5 & Bench 102.5 (slow)
    16: Test â?? 11.5st â?? 9.6% bf â?? 73su â?? 62pu â?? 1533osp â?? 3.59 (outside cold) 314slj (fatigued)
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    18: Circuit test
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    22: Snatch 92.5 â?? Bench 4×85 â?? 3×90 â?? 2×95 â?? 1×100 â?? 1×102.5 + Hurd Jumps & strides
    23: 4 x 60m
    24: H.Clean 4×100 â?? 3×105 â?? 2x 110 â?? 2 fail @ 115 (mentally slack) + Hurd Jumps
    25: Circuit
    26: Jumping sess 14st 16.45: RT: RT: 17.05: RT: RT (6.35/4.65/6.05)
    27: H.Snatch 4×70 â?? 3×75 â?? 2×80 â?? 1×85 â?? Bench 4×85 â?? 3×90 â?? 2×95 â?? 1×105 (fail) â?? 1×105
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    30: 30m 4.12 â?? 60m 6.94 (4.08) â?? 60m 6.91 (4.05) â?? 60m 6.94 (4.07)
    31: Clean 4×115 â?? 3×120 â?? 2×125 â?? 1×130 (fail) â?? 1×130 (fail)

    June 1995
    1: Circuits (v. stiff)
    2: Jumping sess 14st 16.55: 16.70: RT â?? 18st 16.50: 16.70: RT v.fast (still stiff)
    3: Snatch 4×80 â?? 3×82.5 â?? 2×85 â?? 1×90 â?? 1 close fail 95 (vv good) â?? Bench 5×85 â?? 4×90 â?? 3×95 â?? 2×105 â?? 1×107.5 + stretching (good)
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    5: Clean 5x 110 â?? 4x 115 â?? 3x 120 â?? 2x 125 â?? 1×130 â?? 1×132.5 (vv good) + Hurd Jumps & strides
    6: 30m 4.04 â?? 60m 6.87 (4.01)(10.45mps) â?? 60m 6.84 (4.02)(10.64mps) â?? 60m 6.95 (4.06)(10.38mps)
    7: Snatch 5×75 â?? 4×80 â?? 3×85 â?? 2×90 â?? 1×95 (fail) â?? 1×95 (exellent) + few strides
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    9: Clean 5×110 â?? 4x 115 â?? 3x 120 â?? 2x 125 â?? 1x 130 9am training (physically & mentally low)
    10: Bench 5×85 â?? 4×90 â?? 3×95 â?? 2×100 â?? 1×105
    11: AAA x Loughborough 17.01 8+1.4) NJ 17.58 (+1.2)
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    13: Snatch 5×75 â?? 4x 80 â?? 3x 85 â?? 2x 90 â?? 1x 95 (lifted well but slightly lethargic)
    14: 60m 6.34 â?? 60m 6.76 (4.00)(10.86mps) â?? 60m 7.02 (headwind)
    15: Clean 5×110 â?? 4×115 â?? 3×120 â?? 2x 125 â?? 1×130 â?? 1×135
    16: Snatch 5×85 â?? 4x 90 â?? 3×95 â?? 2×100 â?? 1×105 â?? 1×110 (fast) + strides
    17: Competition Lille â?? 16.90: 17.46: 17.22 (70 off board) Wet conditions didn't carry speed through well
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    19: Snatch 90 â?? 97 â?? 3 fails @100 (2nd v. close)
    20: 30m 4.02 â?? 60m 6.88 (4.02)(10.48mps) â?? 60m 6.90 (3.99)(10.30mps) â?? 60m 6.89 (4.02)(10.45mps)
    21: Bench 110 + strides (hay fever)
    22: Clean 125 â?? 3fails @135 + few strides
    23: travel Lille
    24: Warm up and strides spikes
    25: Competition 17.90 (+2.5): 18.43 (+2.4): 17.72 (+0.5): 18.39 (+3.7)  :thumbup:
    26: Sore L achillesw
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    28:Snatch 3x3x85 (1st set lethargic others better)
    29: Bench 3x3x95 (good) + 3 x 50m (good) ankle still sore
    30: Clean 3x3x120

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    mortac8 on #19098

    Fascinating.  He is 10%+ bodyfat early on and up to just a month before his 18.43

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    Josh Hurlebaus on #19099

    16: Test â?? 11.5st

    That  means 11.5 stone, right? I can't believe he only weighed 160 lbs yet lifted such insane numbers.

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    Mike Young on #19100

    Fascinating.  He is 10%+ bodyfat early on and up to just a month before his 18.43

    I imagine this was using a bodpod or hydrostatic weighing. These methods are far less used and far more accurate and they tend to give higher readings than the far more popular caliper measurement which can produce results up to 5% points lower than the true reading.

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