2008 Olympics: Swimming World Records Part 1

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  • Mike Young
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    Mike Young on #14765

    In case you’ve been in a cave, you’ve noticed that there have been a TON of world records set in the swimming events at this year’s Olympics. So many I didn’t even bother to count (I’ll save that for after the swimming events conclude tonight). To most track fans, this is a foreign concept. In track, world records are almost sacred. In many cases they don’t get beat for 10 or even 20 years.

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    Nick Newman
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    Nick Newman on #71464

    so how is this even allowed…? i find it crazy…its like someone saying, lets have the LJ board slightly raised because itll make poeple jump further or lets make the blocks give equal push back to the athlete making them start faster…why isnt every modern olympics set under the exact guidlines…or have the records not count against the old ones…or something…

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    coachformerlyknownas on #71475

    If track were to take a similar approach we could kill 2 birds with one stone.

    Hows this for CFKA logic?
    Lay down some Mondo at a famous US airport…

    Deadbird # 1 is easy but what is the 2nd one and why?

    I crack myself up!

    #1 / the jetwash would give us? 3 sec 100m runs (stumbles) and a new WR holder each attempt (as few if any would survive)

    #2 is one of my best. See if we lay the Mondo at the largest So Cal airport we could steal back some thunder from the spring sport stealing athletes in the US…
    All the press on the 3 sec 100m records would be annouced as being set at LAX…

    Sussh now, I am watching U-Bolt get into the blocks on NBC…

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    RussZHC on #71481

    Changes to technique? Though I guess it could be related to the starting block design. This
    link is to a Youtube clip from 1972.

    Mike Young
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    Mike Young on #71489

    so how is this even allowed…? i find it crazy…its like someone saying, lets have the LJ board slightly raised because itll make poeple jump further or lets make the blocks give equal push back to the athlete making them start faster…why isnt every modern olympics set under the exact guidlines…or have the records not count against the old ones…or something…

    Yeah. I kinda agree….especially when the advancements in technology are coming SOOOO fast. I saw a mini-documentary on the new suits and a NASA scientist who tested them said they can increase performance by 3% and reduce oxygen demand by 5%. Add to that the advancements in pool design and you have a recipe for WRs. I’d be kinda pissed if I was a WR holder from just a couple years back and am now not even in the top 5-6 in my event on the all-time lists.

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    Mike Young
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    Mike Young on #73820

    A relevant article:

    AUSTRALIAN coaches are considering banning the controversial swimsuits that contributed significantly to the rewriting of the record books before and during the Beijing Olympic Games.

    The coaches have been in talks and are preparing to make a recommendation to Swimming Australia’s board on the suitability of the suits – the most contentious being the Speedo LZR Racer, which is expensive, lasts only a handful of swims and is difficult to source. There is a push by some coaches to follow the lead of the US coaches and ban the use of such high-tech suits by swimmers under 12. Other coaches want the swimsuit banned across the board.

    Australian head coach Alan Thompson said a formal response had not yet been formulated. “We are having discussions about it and doing further investigations – looking at FINA’s approval, the rules in the rule book and the suits in general and canvassing the philosophies in swimming, whether it is good or bad,” Thompson said yesterday.

    “Hopefully, we can come to some sort of position by the end of the year.”

    The world governing body, FINA, faces elections next year, with long-standing president Mustapha Larfaoui of Algeria likely to be challenged by the FINA treasurer Julio Maglione of Uruguay. Both men are under increasing pressure to state their views about the future of the revolutionary swimsuits, which use compression and low-drag material more akin to plastics than fabrics to improve times, and have polarised the swimming community.

    The clamour for the suit to be banned – and to allow the world records to stand but with an asterisk beside pre-February 2008 times – has come about after startling analysis of the times recorded at the Olympics in August.

    Professor Joel Stager of Indiana University found that, mathematically, the 100 metres men’s freestyle times set in Beijing would not have been reached for another 16 years, if not for the suit. He also found 60 of the all-time top 100 times were swum this year since the Speedo suit became available.

    Statistically, he found the improvement of times was between 1.3 to 2.6 per cent. Swimmers across the board, not just the swimmers who set 43 new world records between February and August – were improving their times by about 2 per cent. “The swimsuit no doubt helped people,” said Thompson, who claimed training methods and sports science had also contributed to the dramatic results.

    FINA historian Craig Lord has called the results remarkable, and has lobbied for a return to skin. “The more of it the better,” Lord said. “Shorts for men and shorts up to shoulder straps should be the limit when it comes to allowable suit wear.”

    Forbes Carlile, a pioneer in the sport, said FINA should introduce a standard racing costume for all. “The future harm which is being done by this suit – the prohibitive cost and exclusivity of use, even without addressing moral and ethical considerations, is great,” Carlile said.

    Source.

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